danb35
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Agreed.there is no reason that a simple message cannot be added to the website so people are aware of the status of corral.
Agreed.there is no reason that a simple message cannot be added to the website so people are aware of the status of corral.
I am still reeling over this change as features added to FreeNAS 10 were very important to me and I committed to it. But open source is open source and there is not really much I can say. I don't want my comments to be overly negative as that is not really productive to the conversation, but what could have happened to get this far into the process and then totally scrap it? By this point in the process one would have expected a huge amount of unit testing and integration testing to be happening along with all the exploratory testing the rest of us were doing. Risks around design decisions so vital that it would cause a complete failure of the project would have been mitigated much earlier in the process. This is not the era of the mythical man month where you build a system knowing you are going to throw the first one away. The science of software engineering has come along way. From everything I had observed (as an outsider) the project seemed to be running pretty well. If this decision was really done because engineering approaches taken in version 10 were so untenable, I admire the tenacity and commitment to quality. But it does point to huge failure in process. If this decision was made because one developer favored chocolate over vanilla, I am upset because I invested a fair amount in corral.
Guys, this is embarrassing. I loved corral but it is a FREE software. You want to complain and whine? Go buy a NAS. Also, Freenas =/= Linux...Seriously :D google BSD. All we are out is time, less time I might add than devs spent doing there passion project and less time than mods on here write documentation. We are not entitled to anything, and complaint forums do not motivate any devs I know. Please please be respectful to the devs and mods, If you use freenas, its implied you are a DIY person, if not just go find another solution. This whole thing was a shocker for me, but we are all grownups, with the capability to not throw a temper tantrum when we dont get personalized support from free software with absolutely no guarantee. Ill stay on corral until docker comes in 11, until then I would suggest not relying to much on docker for the time being. Lots of ways to work around it, plex is on a nas drive, not docker. Nextcloud the same. Just store files on mapped drives and youre all set.
FreeNAS may be free but that doesn't mean costs haven't been incurred due to the direction taken with Corral. I speak from personal experience that hardware was ordered from ixSys based on the features and direction of Corral that is now essentially null and void. Not to say that the hardware is going to be unused but honestly this whole thing is a mess and it's rude to tell people to shut up and eat your gruel because it's free. I can't be the only one who has purchased from ixSys and supported them based on the hype of Corral. I can honestly say that after spending a lot of money with ixSys this whole thing makes me reevaluate my future purchase plans. Maybe FreeNAS 11 gets to a reasonable point and becomes a suitable proxy for 10 or maybe it doesn't but the whole thing reeks of politics, internal infighting and poor execution. Who wants to tie their fortunes to that sort of company?
It could also be a regular server. Still, I doubt it would have Corral installed.Well if you actually purchased a system from iX you didn't and wouldn't have gotten Corral, you get TrueNAS. And there is no way in hell that TrueNAS would have been sold to a customer as enterprise ready without first being vetted by the community.
This posts wreaks of a shill account........
It could also be a regular server. Still, I doubt it would have Corral installed.
Heretic! Don't you know that the FN10 GUI was the embodiment of all that is good and holy? Or so I understand from this thread, anyway...it may not have the GUI that Corral had (thank god!)
Yeah, but this wasn't version 1.0; it was version 10.0.Especially when everyone knows that 1.0 versions of software tend to not be something you actually want to run in production
The amount of new code / features that went in to 10 basically reset the version clock to 1.0 in my mind. Heck, it was even renamed from "FreeNAS" to "Corral". Even before the project was canned I was thinking it would probably be a year or more before I'd migrate anything 'production' on to it. Especially after see the bug tracker surpass 500 bug reports in the first week or so. That's not to say that this was communicated well during the release process, but the whole thing had my 'spidey sense' tingling.Yeah, but this wasn't version 1.0; it was version 10.0.
No, it was renamed from FreeNAS 10 to FreeNAS Corral. But really, "wait and watch the forums" seems like good advice for any release--even one without so much new code.Heck, it was even renamed from "FreeNAS" to "Corral".
I was just about to install FNC/10 on a test machine last week when i saw a flippant comment about the future of FN10 in another thread ;)
That led to a rabbit hole.
If you use FreeNAS, its implied you are a DIY person, if not just go find another solution.
SmartOS is also an option... granted that it's not terribly promiscuous about the users it's friendly with.Excellent point. I liked Corral and had configured containers so was disappointed with the decision to can it. Coincidentally, my boot drive died during all this (I suspect the increased number of reboots for Corral nightlies and the increased BE size didn't help here) and I had some irritating problems reverting to 9.10 (Jails repo broken, oddities with U2 install) but I am now back where I started :)
However, yesterday I evaluated OpenMediaVault, Rockstor, NAS4Free and ZFS on Linux. None of them (currently) meet my requirements as well as FreeNAS 9.10 but that's the beauty of it. I have a choice.
lol, yup, I guess I could be wrong :p NEVER!Heretic! Don't you know that the FN10 GUI was the embodiment of all that is good and holy? Or so I understand from this thread, anyway...