John Rushford
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I recommend you make an account on there and comment to the ticket so that iXsystems gets the picture that they are hurting more than one person.
Thanks @jpringle03, I did as you suggested.
I recommend you make an account on there and comment to the ticket so that iXsystems gets the picture that they are hurting more than one person.
I agree completely with iXSystems on this issue, as a non-paying users we're not out of anything except the time we put in but there are no guarantees of service and support so that's a risk you take. Efforts are far better spent moving forward with plans to make a more stable and reliable system for all users, and them implementing the features we love from Corral but with the stability of the previous releases. I'm sure that there will be some very determined users out there who will create a method to migrate without the burden falling on iXSystems. I for one am extremely grateful for the work and effort put in by iXSystems to develop the best NAS systems for my needs and think they made the right decision to move forward with something that will work out best for everyone in the end.Sadly they are not going to do that. They actually just closed the bug report I made about it: https://bugs.freenas.org/issues/23362
You're right about Docker containers but, I'm more concerned with having to rebuild my VM's. I want to see a migration path that doesn't require me to rebuild them.
I was using iohyve vm's in 9.10 and really liked what I saw with FreeNAS 10 so I migrated and rebuilt all my vm's at that time. I am a bit pissed at the prospect of re-building them for a third time.
I really don't understand this (I mean the situation, not your answer, of course). Creating a Docker container is just a long code line. It's easy. I have a simple text file with the text to recreate my containers ready to go. Is it really so difficult to keep (to migrate) this in a new release? It will be for me because they are customized for FN10 syntax...Your pool will always migrate so that is ok. Docker container will not migrate. Your share config could possibly migrate it's not guaranteed yet.
Make up your mind. If it's not trivial for you, it's not trivial for iX.I really don't understand this (I mean the situation, not your answer, of course). Creating a Docker container is just a long code line. It's easy. I have a simple text file with the text to recreate my containers ready to go. Is it really so difficult to keep (to migrate) this in a new release? It will be for me because they are customized for FN10 syntax...
Nobody ever said that.The problem is in 9p FS?
No, you jusy had bad luck.Somehow I feel like those of us who supported FN10 are being punished.
If you've been using FreeNAS for years, just rollback to what you had before. You might not get Docker, but it clearly wasn't working reliably yet and it will be back.I'm sorry, because FN has been my NAS software of choice for many years
I don't think "fault" enters into it. There's always a risk (with any software, free or otherwise) that the developer will abandon your software, in one way or another. Whose "fault" that is doesn't really matter much; there may be no fault at all. But it is unusual for it to be this drastic and this sudden, and I think it calls iXSystems' management into question--and I'm saying this as someone who never migrated to FN10, just had it on a test box. I think they've given good reasons for making the decision, but I haven't heard a good reason for having let it get to this point in the first placet seems everything was wrong and it is our fault
Ok, Bhyve is going to be there and we could use some other Docker management software. Where's the problem then?Nobody ever said that.
Rollback is not an option now. If it was I would have done it. I kept a USB drive with my 9.10 booting configuration for months, and sometimes (FN10 just didn't work on some updates) I used it. Now my jails don't work any more, they are gone and should be created from scrath.If you've been using FreeNAS for years, just rollback to what you had before. You might not get Docker, but it clearly wasn't working reliably yet and it will be back.
Sorry, I cannot agree. There are a lot of messages spread all around stating the this (FN10) was the future. Even a lot of messages complaining about the lack of a real support for migrating. What you won't find is a single message talking about any chance of FN10 being cancelled.I don't understand this doom and gloom. There was not a single statement that even hinted that you had to migrate to Corral any time soon. For all intents and purposes, it was a completely new and independent product. Yes, I'm sure it's frustrating to have wasted time on it, but that's a risk you take with any new product you try and Corral is no different.
Something of the sort is almost certainly planned. Details may be different and it is going to take at least a while, though.The whole reason I moved to freenas10 was to get it working with FreeIPA which finally got fully supported in later versions freenas10. I was incredibly happy and based my entire network setup around this. I am not sure what I am going to do now. Will this support be moved into 9.x?
It sounds like you are trying to say that FreeNAS is good at being a storage appliance and anything else is secondary. So should third-party application developers stop targetting FreeNAS because their work is only a secondary function? I can attest that supporting FreeNAS is a tremendous burden on these application developers so in your viewpoint should they cease their pain and dump the platform?I know a lot of people like the idea of hardware reuse/virtualize but, as I see it, FreeNAS is mainly a storage appliance and its primary function should be storage. All other features are nice to have but not mandatory.
What third-party application developers are targeting FreeNAS?So should third-party application developers stop targetting FreeNAS because their work is only a secondary function?