BUILD Looking To buy these parts Are they Good?

[bustersnm]

Hello All,

I am new to freeNAS and looking for the compatibility of parts with freeNAS. I have some old 1TB NAS bufflotechs. One failed me and i am on my last one. It never really provided speed for me but did the job. After looking around at Snyolgy I decided it would be faster if i just built it, Speed wise. So here is what i am looking at buying Thanks in advance for any advice you may provide.

What am I wanting?
Expandable as i have it now i think i will have 9TB for backup using ZFS as i want redundency using raidz2.
I already have one 3TB WD RED device that holds my back up of both nas after transfer of data it will be a hot spare if suggested
Speed for read and write to and from the device to my HTPC and streaming to other devices.
My HTPC has an i5 and 16gb ram, it runs Mediabrowser and Plex and a ceton 6 card for my DVR for Suddenlink.
It will primarily hold my movie files and some backups for pictures and files.
I might want to run encryption on not sure if i will or not but is an option.
Plugins of interest?
crashplan
plex
owncloud

Case
I really like the idea of HotSwap drives and this case provides that and expandable.
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My questions?
Will this be a well built NAS?
Can use this hotswap Case and these hard drives with the SAS controller?
Power Supply suggestions?
I don't fully understand the Cache drive but interested in setting up a SSD if suggested.
Thanks you!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1241 V3 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($264.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Silverstone DS380B Mini ITX Tower Case ($147.99 @ Directron)
Memory: MEM-DR380L-HL02-EU16 ($96.00)
Memory: MEM-DR380L-HL02-EU16 ($96.00)
Motherboard: Supermicro X10SL7-F ($259.99)
Total: $1264.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-05 23:16 EDT-0400

 

[anodos]

I'd avoid raidz1 if possible. Use raidz2.
No power supply?
Adding an L2ARC would be counterproductive on this system.

 

[bustersnm]

The power supply I was hoping to get some info from maybe someone who used this case. I would assume I wouldn't need anything over a 400W.

Will look it up now and edit list above. I was going to use raidz2, just forgot what it was called. ZFS system is rather new to me. I didn't understand the L2ARC comment so i googled it. After reading a bit I now know what you mean. From what I read it would only help if i was using the Virtual machine portion. I don't intend to use it extensively more or less may play with it.

Thank you...

 

[marbus90]

With 6 drives you'll swap out one defective drive every 2-3 years statistically. I wouldn't want to shell out for hotswap there.

This aside: 4x3TB raidz2 = 6TB = 4.9TiB usable before ZFS switches from performance to space saving mode. 5x4TB in raidz2 would provide you just short of 10TiB usable. If you decide on a 10bay system, you could just add another 5 HDDs for a total of 20TiB storage before you need to swap out the HDDs for bigger ones (or back everything up and move to a new, bigger raidz2 across all 10 disks, which would give you 26TiB with 2 disks redundancy).

An 10bay build example:
LianLi PC-Q26 + 4x BP2SATA (1x included, each provides hotswap for 2 drives)
Seasonic G-360 or rather 430
ASRock E3C224D4I-14S
E3-1241 v3 w/ boxed cooler
Crucial CT2KIT102472BD160B

The SFF-8087 breakout cables are already included with the board. Without the backplanes you would need to order a few SATA power splitters as well.

 

[bustersnm]

Ah, thank you for the information on raidz2.
The case above listed will support 3.5" 8 sas/sata hotswap drives externally and 4 internally 2.5" internally. However thanks for the case info I really do like that one now, lots of room and it has a cable management as the silverstone didn't.
The motherboard will support 8x SAS2 (6Gbps) via LSI 2308 onboard.
I have added a workable link to the motherboard for further information on it.

So to get the best out of my 8 ports looks like i should upgrade to a 4gb hd? I am wanting to keep this under around 1400$

On a seperate note - why does the silverstone case have capacitors on the back... Looking at your BP2SATA I didn't see them. I would hate for a cap to get hot and break. Seems like it could be another failure point not needed.

 

[marbus90]

The X10SL7-F doesn't fit into the Q26 or the DS380, hence the E3C224D4I-14S recommendation for the Q26. you can use all 10 bays of the lianli -> 8x SAS + 2x SATA. Also you can add the BP2SATA backplanes later on when bugdet allows - it would work without them, you would just have to remove both side panels to remove the cables from the rear of the HDD.

The DS380 would work best with the ASRock MT-C224 and an addon SAS controller.

 

[MtK]

I really hope you mean 4Tb HDD...

To get the best of 8 ports, use 8 drives!
If you plan on 4 HDDs, why bother with a 8+ ports motherboard?
Just get a bigger case, or a smaller mb.
Also, check the price for 'more smaller drives' (i.e. 6*2Tb) vs 'less bigger drives' (i.e. 4*4Tb)

 

[bustersnm]

The X10SL7-F doesn't fit into the Q26 or the DS380, hence the E3C224D4I-14S recommendation for the Q26. you can use all 10 bays of the lianli -> 8x SAS + 2x SATA. Also you can add the BP2SATA backplanes later on when bugdet allows - it would work without them, you would just have to remove both side panels to remove the cables from the rear of the HDD.

The DS380 would work best with the ASRock MT-C224 and an addon SAS controller.

I believe you just saved me from a mistake I had not seen. I was under the impression that supermicro boards are the best for FreeNAS.

MtK: yes I did mean TB, I can pretty much use about 3tb right now. MKV files are huge for blu-ray. Expansion in the future is a must hence the 8 drive mb and case. Back several years ago I really didn't think I would use 1tb on my nas.

Thank you both for info and option suggestion.

 

[marbus90]

if Supermicro doesn't have the tools for the job (right size for the chassis), they obviously aren't feasible. ASRock is 2nd choice, but not a bad one.

 

[Ericloewe]

The E3C224D4I-14S is kinda like a voodoo-shrunk X10SL7-F, so there's not really much that can go wrong. Some of their boards do have questionable Marvell SATA controllers, but that is not the case here.

 

[Zserver]

The X10SL7-F doesn't fit into the Q26 or the DS380, hence the E3C224D4I-14S recommendation for the Q26. you can use all 10 bays of the lianli -> 8x SAS + 2x SATA. Also you can add the BP2SATA backplanes later on when bugdet allows - it would work without them, you would just have to remove both side panels to remove the cables from the rear of the HDD.

The DS380 would work best with the ASRock MT-C224 and an addon SAS controller.

Do you know for a fact that the MT-C224 fits in the DS380? A poster on Tweaktown points out a discrepancy in the board size (7.8" x 6.6" vs 8.8" x 6.7") depending if you look at the manual or the online specs. Not sure the bigger size will fit.

 

[bustersnm]

Do you know for a fact that the MT-C224 fits in the DS380? A poster on Tweaktown points out a discrepancy in the board size (7.8" x 6.6" vs 8.8" x 6.7") depending if you look at the manual or the online specs. Not sure the bigger size will fit.

I looked at a few E3C224D4I-14S some say extended mini ITX and others do not. I would guess you wouldn't want the extended ASRock for the ds380 or Q26.

http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=E3C224D4I-14S#Specifications

Edited: changed mini atx to mini ITX

 

[Ericloewe]

I looked at a few E3C224D4I-14S some say extended mini atx and others do not. I would guess you wouldn't want the extended ASRock for the ds380 or Q26.

http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=E3C224D4I-14S#Specifications

The E3C224D4I-14S fits in a Lian-Li PC Q26. ASRock's support verified this (check the Q26 thread here on the forum). It's extended miniITX - there's no such thing as "miniATX", only microATX.

 

[bustersnm]

The E3C224D4I-14S fits in a Lian-Li PC Q26. ASRock's support verified this (check the Q26 thread here on the forum). It's extended miniITX - there's no such thing as "miniATX", only microATX.

You are correct it will fit in the Lian-Li PC Q26 just not the SilverStone DS380.

 

[marbus90]

Written specification is off for the MT-C224. It fits the DS380 and the Node 304 since it's ITX plus one additional PCI slot.

 

[Zserver]

Written specification is off for the MT-C224. It fits the DS380 and the Node 304 since it's ITX plus one additional PCI slot.

Well, that is good news. Frankly, it is difficult to find any testimonials for the MT-C224, much less someone trying to use it with the DS380. Thanks!

 

[bustersnm]

New Build:
Just need the PSU and a couple BP2SATA
I will have a total of 7*3 TB drives for 15TB total after raidz2. Thanks for the help everyone....

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1241 V3 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($264.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($155.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Lian-Li PC-Q26A Mini ITX Tower Case ($189.98 @ Newegg)
Other: ASRock E3C224D4I-14S ($289.00)
Total: $1499.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-07 00:17 EDT-0400

 

[j_r0dd]

New Build:
Just need the PSU and a couple BP2SATA
I will have a total of 7*3 TB drives for 15TB total after raidz2. Thanks for the help everyone....

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1241 V3 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($264.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($155.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Lian-Li PC-Q26A Mini ITX Tower Case ($189.98 @ Newegg)
Other: ASRock E3C224D4I-14S ($289.00)
Total: $1499.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-07 00:17 EDT-0400

Don't forget you will need to flash the IT firmware for LSI controller. ASRock doesn't have on their website and unfortunately they currently only have v17 available if you email them for it. If you find anybody in the US with the BP2SATA in stock shoot me a PM with info. Frozencpu.com is the only place I can find with stock and they are going through staff changes and haven't been taking orders for a while now. Also, the fans that come with the case are just 3-pin fans so the smart-fan features in the bios will not work.

 

[Ericloewe]

Just a word of warning: The PC-Q26 backplanes do not properly support hot-plugging drives.

 

[bustersnm]

Interesting... Well I am reserved to order these parts. questioning the hot-swap and case, MB, etc. This build is suppose to last me around 6+ years.

Ericloewe- I have looked into your build that you have on your Sign. And really liked the icy dock FatCage setup you have. Based on your setup what would you be interested in changing if you could?

Also newegg has the 3TB Red Pro Drives for open box at 126$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...740R&cm_re=3tb_wd_red-_-22-236-740R-_-Product
Would this be a good pickup vs. the 7200 RPM drives?

I also just bought this mother board and CPU and need suggestions for Crucial ECC ram please:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2292705
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1241 v3 Haswell 3.5GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1150 80W Server Processor BX80646E31241V3
MB: SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SL7-F-O uATX Server Motherboard

Will this ram work? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008EMA5VU/?tag=pcpapi-20

I plan to buy all parts for this build by Sunday if possible.. Also suggestions on flash memory drive for freenas. I like how you have it mirrored.

Thanks.