Backup FreeNAS Data

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Smarley

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Hi guys,

What´s the best way to do backup FreeNAS data?
I saw some examples using Crashplan but always to send data from another computer to FreeNAS machine.
This is a nice idea for my data at home, but in the work I would like to have something automatically for all the storage.

Thanks!
 
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What about a 2nd FreeNAS as back-up? I have two: Main one for CIFs, jails, etc, rsync'ed to the Back-up one.
 

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But do you have in different location connect each other?
Because my concern is about robbery for example.
 

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Not is my case, no. It is for my home network. You can do it remotely, but I'd do the 1st sync locally for obvious reasons :)
 

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Not is my case, no. It is for my home network. You can do it remotely, but I'd do the 1st sync locally for obvious reasons :)

Does Freenas has something ready to do the sync automaticaly?
 

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ZFS Replication. Check the forum and documentation for utilization. This is over my head :)
 

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Ok!
Thanks!

Now I need to find a way to work the OpenVPN.
 

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I check at the documentation seens to be easy to do.
In your off-site bakcup you use the same hard drive size?
 

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If you want to replicate everything, then you will need the same size or larger target.

You are using multiple drives in a proper zfs configuration, right?
 

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If you want to replicate everything, then you will need the same size or larger target.

You are using multiple drives in a proper zfs configuration, right?

Yes, in my work I have 2HD of 2.0Tb.
But I use only 10Gb of data.
So, this backup at home I would like to use a old computador that I have with 500Gb hard drive only.

This will be not possible?
 

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Yes, in my work I have 2HD of 2.0Tb.
But I use only 10Gb of data.
So, this backup at home I would like to use a old computador that I have with 500Gb hard drive only.

This will be not possible?
An old computer? With FreeNAS?

Does it meet the hardware requirements for FreeNAS?
 

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Because you have a simple small amount of data, of course you can make some automated backup on your local network and using some old computer. The old computer likely will not be running FreeNAS. You could run Windows 7 for example and then run SyncToy 2.1 on the old computer and have it automatically backup whenever you desire. There are a lot of ways to attack this problem if all you are doing is looking to maintain a second copy of your data.
 

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An old computer? With FreeNAS?

Does it meet the hardware requirements for FreeNAS?

It´s Celeron J1800 with 8Gb of RAM.
I don´t know yet if will run ok because I did not find the CPU minimum requirements.
 

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It´s Celeron J1800 with 8Gb of RAM.
I don´t know yet if will run ok because I did not find the CPU minimum requirements.
With only one disk, I don't see a benefit of using FreeNAS with this hardware.
 

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With only one disk, I don't see a benefit of using FreeNAS with this hardware.

I have in the work a Lenovo server with two disk running freenas.
This other machine in just in case a catastrophe like fire, robbery, etc...
Because I don´t have money know to buy another server, probably next year I will buy other.
 

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I fully understand that you just want a second backup in case some physical damage occurs to your FreeNAS machine. While my original suggestion isn't the final solution, it would be a stop-gap until then. Also, I didn't really read that you wanted this to be an off-site backup. With that in mind, there are still several free options or you could use a paid service like Crashplan and at $5.00 a month, that is very cheap security and you will not have to manage a second FreeNAS system which will definitely be more expensive to purchase and then support. Look at it this way: Crashplan costs $60 a year. A FreeNAS computer will likely cost you $300 + $300 for a pair of hard drives = $600.00. If current prices remain then Crashplan would last you 10 years for the same cost. But you know hard drives will fail so you have those added costs and the fact that you need to do the replacement when it comes time will of course happen when it's inconvenient. Basically it could be cheaper both in the short and long run to use Crashplan.

Now I've talked myself into signing up for the Free 30 days so I can see how well it works myself.
 

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I configured the Replication Tasks just for test in a virtual machine at home.
And work very well, now I can see and access my files of work at home.
This solve another problem that I did not got openvpn working in a jail yet to acess my files.

Do you know what happens if I modificate some file in the remote unit?
I think that in the next snapshop the server will replace this file maybe.
 

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I fully understand that you just want a second backup in case some physical damage occurs to your FreeNAS machine. While my original suggestion isn't the final solution, it would be a stop-gap until then. Also, I didn't really read that you wanted this to be an off-site backup. With that in mind, there are still several free options or you could use a paid service like Crashplan and at $5.00 a month, that is very cheap security and you will not have to manage a second FreeNAS system which will definitely be more expensive to purchase and then support. Look at it this way: Crashplan costs $60 a year. A FreeNAS computer will likely cost you $300 + $300 for a pair of hard drives = $600.00. If current prices remain then Crashplan would last you 10 years for the same cost. But you know hard drives will fail so you have those added costs and the fact that you need to do the replacement when it comes time will of course happen when it's inconvenient. Basically it could be cheaper both in the short and long run to use Crashplan.

Now I've talked myself into signing up for the Free 30 days so I can see how well it works myself.

I will check that, It´s easy to configure the FreeNAS to upload the files at Crashplan?
I saw some guides at the internet but always to send data from your home pc to your freenas server using crashplan.
 

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Now I've talked myself into signing up for the Free 30 days so I can see how well it works myself.

Let us know. When considering the cost for servers, links, storage, etc, makes me scratch my head trying to understand how can it be so cheap. Unlimited storage for $60 ... or $150 for up to 10 PCs ...
 
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