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And might do a satadom on this board too to free up a sata
Can't see how that would free up a Sata :-/
And might do a satadom on this board too to free up a sata
Damn Chris, that case is a beast! Cheap too for all that storage space. But I'm worried about how loud it is. I'll bet they're loud, right? If I have to I could put it elsewhere in the house, but I got rid of my two 16 inch racks years ago because of all the noise. Looking to keep them as silent as possible. If this can be minimized to just the hard drive noise and noctua fans on the CPU and rear of the case, it might still be reasonable in the house. Thanks for this suggestion! I didn't realize this model was available. Looks like a backplane. Just need to check to make sure it'll connect directly to the SM board though is my only last concern.
And thanks for the info on the Dell Perc controller. Seems like a great deal. But I could have sworn when I was reading last year that LSI weren't recommended?
Has this changed or am I mistaken? I'll probably add these as well if fully supported and super stable as they seem they might give even higher performance? They at least add two more SATA connectors each right? I need to study up on the pros/cons of this controller vs going direct to the onboard SATA connectors.
SATA DOM - You don't need it this big, but 32GB gives you room to grow if the next version of FreeNAS needs more space. I use a pair of 40GB laptop drives and that works great. It is more room than I need, but I have had zero problems out of the solution."Can't see how that would free up a Sata :-/"
When I glanced at the satadom's on the supermicro site they seemed to plug into a special socket on the x10 boards. Didn't look to be sata to me. Thought they'd be the same on these x11 boards. But on further inspection and reading you are correct:
https://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/SATADOM.cfm
- Plugs into SATA connector on motherboard
- For X10 motherboards: yellow SATA connector, built-in power pins - no need for power cable
So now I need to read up on what size I'll need if I go with one of these.
Eric and Joe, thanks for the confirmation on the Seasonic Platinums. Good to know my choice of them years and years ago still bears out as the best. I'll just be sure to get one with a fan instead of the fanless.
Damn Chris, that case is a beast! Cheap too for all that storage space. But I'm worried about how loud it is. I'll bet they're loud, right? If I have to I could put it elsewhere in the house, but I got rid of my two 16 inch racks years ago because of all the noise. Looking to keep them as silent as possible. If this can be minimized to just the hard drive noise and noctua fans on the CPU and rear of the case, it might still be reasonable in the house. Thanks for this suggestion! I didn't realize this model was available. Looks like a backplane. Just need to check to make sure it'll connect directly to the SM board though is my only last concern.
And thanks for the info on the Dell Perc controller. Seems like a great deal. But I could have sworn when I was reading last year that LSI weren't recommended? Has this changed or am I mistaken? I'll probably add these as well if fully supported and super stable as they seem they might give even higher performance? They at least add two more SATA connectors each right? I need to study up on the pros/cons of this controller vs going direct to the onboard SATA connectors.
Eric, I'm leaning towards getting your basic build right now. Just the i3 and your board with 16gb of mem. Seems like a value build that might be good enough for most home use cases, no?
The debate over going with additional drives is beginning to look like a potential dealbreaker as it drives up costs and wattage. The redundancy % is very important to me, so more drives is what' I'll want for that. But costs go up while size goes down inversely. Not making it compelling because of this one aspect...
The SuperMicro case I posted a link to appears to include the cables you would need. For that case at least. The SAS cables are standard, not special for Dell.Man, that Norco is also a beast of a case. Bit expensive though new. But another great recommendation, thanks. That's a TON of drives up front. Impressive looking. So it has fans bringing air through all of those? It's not noisy? Not seeing any available for less than $400+ though so far.
And I just read the new hardware recommendations guide. I'll reread it again to be sure I got it. Thanks.
Seems smartly limiting on options. Really helps narrow things down and keep problems at bay. I'll follow it.
Any objections to the x11ssl-cf-o over the X11SSM-F? It gives me the sas3 controller right on board for about the same price increase ($70) it would be to buy a used one off of ebay, flash it and use a slot.
I'm still trying to understand the cables these dell controllers use. Got a part number so I can research costs for additional cables? It seems the cards on ebay usually come with one cable that has two? sata ends? So two drives per cable?
I checked the price of the full ATX version of this board (x10srh-cln4f-0)and it is $432. Not gonna pay that. Seems the micro ATX boards are around $200, which is doable. Wonder what the full ATX version of the x11-ssm-f is? Time to start getting into smartmicro's site and getting my mind wrapped around all their x11 offerings...
The more I look, the more I see Eric's build as the golden mean value wise. It seems the WD 3tb drives at $109 are doable if going to 6 drives. Total of $654. And if I buy on Black Friday perhaps less. Maybe stay with those for a year or two and add a second zgroup of 6 4tb or larger drives once prices come down eventually.
I was talking to another FreeNAS user (on the forum) and he said that he has put 6 x 2TB drives and 6 x 4TB drives in his and got it working.Thank you Chris. Love your detailed posts. Just what I need for answers. Thank you so much.
I can just skip the backplane completely, right?
Sorry I overlooked this before. The X11SSL-CF board has a different type of SAS connector (12Gbps) that I am not familiar with. I have not had occasion to work with it yet and I do not know if there is a way to connect that to the backplane in the server chassis I suggested.Any objections to the x11ssl-cf-o over the X11SSM-F? It gives me the sas3 controller right on board for about the same price increase ($70) it would be to buy a used one off of ebay, flash it and use a slot.
Yes, adapter cables are widely available. Haven't memorized the designation of the new ones, though.Sorry I overlooked this before. The X11SSL-CF board has a different type of SAS connector (12GB/s) that I am not familiar with. I have not had occasion to work with it yet and I do not know if there is a way to connect that to the backplane in the server chassis I suggested.
Yes, adapter cables are widely available. Haven't memorized the designation of the new ones, though.
8-6-4 and then stupid three missed the memo that only even numbers were invited.Mini SAS HD, SFF-8643 ;)
8-6-4 and then stupid three missed the memo that only even numbers were invited.