Random crashes? Critical warning? Best practice?

Conza

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Hi team,

On Truenas core for awhile now. Using Plex and a VM or two, on an old system.

What I currently have: bought 2011.

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Quad Core CPU
Motherboard: Asus S1155 P8Z68-V-LE Motherboard
Memory: DDR3 8GB (2x4G) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 CL9 Kit + DDR3 8GB (2x8G) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 CL9 (Total: 24GB memory)
OS: Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit TrueNAS Core

Hard Drive: Seagate IronWolf 12TB NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD
Hard Drive: Seagate IronWolf 12TB NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD
SSD: Western Digital Red SA500 500GB 2.5 inch NAS SATA SSD (boot pool)
Storage: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB (not really being used)
Hard Drive: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200rpm 32M SATA HDD (not really being used)

Graphics: Radeon HD 6950 1GB Powercolor PCIe Video Card
Power supply: Corsair TX650 V2

Case: Antec 900 two ver 3
Fans: 2 x Antec TriCool 120mm Fan [front section]

Bluetooth: ASUS USB-BT211 USB Mini Bluetooth Adapter EDR
Sound card: Asus Xonar DG
DVD burner: LG CH10LS20 BLK BluRay Combo,10XBD-R,16xDVD, BD-R/RE

Router:TP-Link Archer D9 1900

It has been going along real well, until recently... and I am not sure why? How do I look at the logs, or what might have caused the crash?

Some of the below downtimes, were me trying to update Plex plugin. But last few days - lot more frequent it seems.

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What are some best practices I should be doing for long term maintenance as well?

Is my hardware a possible reason why?

I recently tried to backup to an external HD via SMB, and for some reason it tends to crash TrueNas entirely. Don't think its related to the random crashes... like I will be using Plex late at night... and its all good.

Wake up the next morning, to start some music and its off / crashed.

Many thanks
 

NugentS

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A few things you need to do.
1. Make sure anything remotely involving overclocks is turned off e.g. "autotuning", "Asus TurboV" etc
2. Make sure anything you don't need is turned off (on board audio for example).
3. Get rid of the soundcard (well remove it)
4. Run a memtest at least overnight - or preferably 24 hours
5. The Bluetooth adapter - is it doing anything. If not get rid
6. You have both SATA 6G and 3G - Make sure you have the data pool on the same port types - 3G is fine - they are only HDD's
7. Can you ditch the Radeon and use the onboard iGPU instead. Its an old CPU so don't expect much out of any transcoding - but then I guess the Radeon won't really help either.
8. Pull out (remove cables from) any disks you aren't using - you can always add them back in again later.

What is the chipset on the network card - I can't immediately tell as the manual doesn't say. If its realtek then consider replacing with an Intel card. 1Gb is cheap enough (and turn off the onboard NIC if you do replace it)

Thats an old CPU and motherboard (still got PCI slots) - not that thats a problem - a NAS doesn't need or want the latest and greatest
 

Conza

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A few things you need to do.
1. Make sure anything remotely involving overclocks is turned off e.g. "autotuning", "Asus TurboV" etc
2. Make sure anything you don't need is turned off (on board audio for example).
3. Get rid of the soundcard (well remove it)
4. Run a memtest at least overnight - or preferably 24 hours
5. The Bluetooth adapter - is it doing anything. If not get rid
6. You have both SATA 6G and 3G - Make sure you have the data pool on the same port types - 3G is fine - they are only HDD's
7. Can you ditch the Radeon and use the onboard iGPU instead. Its an old CPU so don't expect much out of any transcoding - but then I guess the Radeon won't really help either.
8. Pull out (remove cables from) any disks you aren't using - you can always add them back in again later.

What is the chipset on the network card - I can't immediately tell as the manual doesn't say. If its realtek then consider replacing with an Intel card. 1Gb is cheap enough (and turn off the onboard NIC if you do replace it)

Thats an old CPU and motherboard (still got PCI slots) - not that thats a problem - a NAS doesn't need or want the latest and greatest
1. How to check this?
2. How to do?
3. How to do?
4. How to do?
5. Not doing anything. How to do?
6. Ohh hmm, I think the same. How would I know (without looking?)
7. How to confirm its not adding anything to the system? I suspect you are right.
8. Done.

I am in the process of making a 'Hot rod/sweet spot build' for a new NAS. Worried the decade+ stuff wasn't built for 24/7, and want specialised stuff that is. A topic for another thread perhaps. Was wanting to make sure more TrueNas Core - 13; I am doing the basics right e.g. any cron jobs, what is scrubbing pool?, have torrents downloading... not an issue? etc.

Many thanks
 

Samuel Tai

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1. This is in your BIOS. Asus BIOS's, in particular, default to applying a small overclock to the CPU and the RAM.
2. This is in your BIOS. Disable the built-in audio device.
3. See 2.
4. Boot off a Linux live USB, and run memtest86+ from the boot menu
5. See 2.
 

NugentS

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1. How to check this?
2. How to do?
3. How to do?
4. How to do?
5. Not doing anything. How to do?
6. Ohh hmm, I think the same. How would I know (without looking?)
7. How to confirm its not adding anything to the system? I suspect you are right.
8. Done.

I am in the process of making a 'Hot rod/sweet spot build' for a new NAS. Worried the decade+ stuff wasn't built for 24/7, and want specialised stuff that is. A topic for another thread perhaps. Was wanting to make sure more TrueNas Core - 13; I am doing the basics right e.g. any cron jobs, what is scrubbing pool?, have torrents downloading... not an issue? etc.

Many thanks
1. BIOS
2. BIOS
3. Use screwdriver
4. As @Samuel Tai says
5. Use screwdriver or remove from USB slot - I dunno - its depends on exactly what it is
6. Read the motheboard manual - the SATA ports are different colours
7. The NAS needs very little in the way of GPU - use a screwdrive and remove the eGPU
8. Good
 
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