New backup and plex server

[Stuartbe]

Hi all.

I hope you can help. This is a list of the hardware I am thinking of using for a backup and plex server.
I am hoping to have 4 x 4TB WD Red Nas drives on raid 10 or raid 5 with a fifth 4TB drive as a standby drive. I would like to use a 500GB SSD as a cache drive to improve performance.

I am pretty sure the hardware will have enough grunt for the job but I only have experience with normal raid controller cards and software raid. All my experience is windows server based and I have no experience with ZFS or even Linux aside from the basics but I know its a pretty rock solid file system. Here is the hardware spec.....

StarTech 4 Bay Aluminum Trayless Hot Swap Mobile Rack Backplane For 3.5in SAS II/SATA III - 6 GBPS HDD


Asus Intel PRIME Z270-A LGA 1151 ATX Motherboard


Intel Core i7 6700 3.4GHz Socket 1151 8MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor


Cooler Master HAF X Hgh Airflow Full Tower


Aerocool Integrator 700W 80+ Certified PSU 12cm Black Fan Active PFC TW Caps UK Cable


G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB Kit DDR4 3866MHz RAM


WD Red 4TB 3.5" SATA NAS Hard Drive


Crucial MX300 525GB SATA III 2.5inch SSD


WD Blue M.2 250GB Internal SSD


Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 4 Heatpipes/1x120mm Fan CPU Air Cooler

Can anyone point out any trapdoor's or woopsie's I have made.
Any help or advice that you all have for a Freenas noob will be appreciated. :)

Stuart

 

[melloa]

Welcome to the forum @Stuartbe.

Let me start by saying that FreeNAS uses ZFS, to no Raid10 or Raid5. Try to get familiar with ZFS and read this great guide: https://forums.freenas.org/index.ph...ning-vdev-zpool-zil-and-l2arc-for-noobs.7775/. It will give you a better idea on how to setup your NAS.

I'm a fan of Raidz2 as it gives two HDs redundancy in case of failure, so always go with five or more disks on my builds.

Also it seems you are using desktop parts on your build, so take a look at https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?resources/hardware-recommendations-guide.12/ for better ideas. I've started my servers long ago using desktop parts I have available and can't say I had problems, but if I had to buy new, I'd go with the recommended hardware as the difference is not that big. For instance a SUPERMICRO MBD-X11SSL-O Micro ATX Server Motherboard is about $180 and yours $195 and no ECC memory supported. Your CPU $415 and an Intel Xeon E3-1245 v5 SkyLake $204, and so on. The difference will be the ECC memory, but you can plan to get the max you need in two stages.

Just food for thoughts.

 

[Stuartbe]

Thanks for the information Melloa I will read up on that link for ZFS. I know its a very mature file system. From classes at uni some 20+ years ago now I think it spreads the parity stripe over all the drives.

I did look at server grade hardware. It sounds like I have over spec'd the cpu. I will have a look at that motherboard, as long as it has at least 6 sata ports it will be fine.

I am curious to know how well the cpu you sugested will cope with the plex transcoding as plex will be its primary role as well as a weekly backup from another office over a vpn.

Thank you for all the helpful information. :)

 

[Stuartbe]

Just found this........

http://www.ebuyer.com/700009-hpe-pr...-e5-2603v3-1-6-ghz-4gb-ram-2u-rack-788148-425

Verdict please. I already have 6 4TB WD NAS Aware drives and the ssd + m.2 500MB to install freenas to.

Does anyone know if these servers come with 3.5" caddies and what kind of noise level they generate as this unit is going into a rack in the corner of an office. I have tried this suppliers support and the "experts" there think ohms law is something to do with the highway code :(

The reason I pick this supplier is that the company have an account with them.

Thanks again all.

 

[melloa]

as long as it has at least 6 sata ports it will be fine.

That was my mistake two years ago. I got a Motherboard with 10 SATA ports 'cause I want to use my 10x4TiB HDs... Today? Use a HBA. You can buy a new one and don't have the headace to flash it to IT mode or have fun re-flashing an used one (I did, so anyone can ;) ). That same link for the recommended hardware will have info on those.

this unit is going into a rack in the corner of an office.

I can't honestly say if that server is quite, but have to assume is noise as hell. Usually those servers are built for closets, far from people :)

I'm very pick with noise ... just rebuilt a SM chassis to use as my desktop and replaced ALL fans. Anything above 20 dbs didn't make to the list. Noise was one of the things that made me abandon the r710 idea for my vSphere... re-built another SM chassis for that, with new fans, including the PSU one.

 

[Stuartbe]

Hi All.

I have looked up two commercial grade servers. I have listed them below. What would you suggest? Im leaning towards the Haswell build. Im not sure if the units have the correct port speeds and type.

I have also seen mention on a video that only the commercial freenas boxes support hot standby drives and ssd cache. Is this correct?

I have the hard drives (WD Red's) Here are the two servers..... I think the second server is better value.

As always any help or advice is appreciated.

Thanks

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Supermicro 2U 6027R-TRF 8 Bay
Intel Xeon E5-2620v2 6 Core 2.10GHz 10MB 80W
2 x 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz ECC RDIMM
Integrated IPMI2.0 with Dedicated LAN
Rackmount rails / Without DVD-Rom
740W Redundant Power Supplies Platinum Level (94%)
* not including hard drives

Supermicro 2U 6027R-TRF Dual Xeon E5 8 x Hotswap Bays


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Processor/Cache

CPU
Dual Socket R (LGA 2011)
Intel® Xeon® processor E5-2600
and E5-2600 v2 family†
(up to 130W TDP)
Note † BIOS version 3.0 or above is required
Cache
Up to 30MB
System Bus
QPI up to 8 GT/s

System Memory

Memory Capacity
16x 240-pin DDR3 DIMM sockets
Up to 1TB DDR3 ECC LRDIMM
Up to 512GB DDR3 ECC Registered memory (RDIMM)
Up to 128GB DDR3 ECC Un-Buffered memory (UDIMM)
Memory Type
1866/1600/1333/1066/800MHz ECC DDR3 SDRAM 72-bit, 240-pin gold-plated DIMMs
DIMM Sizes
32GB, 16GB, 8GB, 4GB, 2GB, 1GB
Memory Voltage
1.5 V, 1.35 V
Error Detection
Corrects single-bit errors
Detects double-bit errors (using ECC memory)

On-Board Devices

Chipset
Intel® C602 Chipset
AHCI SATA
SATA 2.0 3Gbps with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10
SATA 3.0 6Gbps with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10
SCU SATA (Storage Controller)
SATA 2.0 3Gbps with RAID 0, 1, 10
IPMI
Support for Intelligent Platform Management Interface v.2.0
IPMI 2.0 with virtual media over LAN and KVM-over-LAN support
Nuvoton WPCM450 BMC
Network Controllers
Intel® i350 Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet
Virtual Machine Device Queues reduce I/O overhead
Supports 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, and 1000BASE-T, RJ45 output
1x Realtek RTL8201N PHY (dedicated IPMI)
Graphics
Matrox G200eW

Input / Output

AHCI SATA
2 SATA 3.0 ports (6Gbps)
4 SATA 2.0 ports (3Gbps)
SCU SATA
4 SATA 2.0 ports (3Gbps)
LAN
2x RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet LAN ports
1x RJ45 Dedicated IPMI LAN port
USB
2x Front USB 2.0 + 4x Rear USB 2.0 ports
MB: 4x rear + 6x via header + 1x Type A
VGA
1x VGA port
Serial Port / Header
2x Fast UART 16550 ports


Chassis

Form Factor
2U Rackmount
Model
CSE-825TQ-R740LPB

Dimensions

Width
17.2" (437mm)
Height
3.5" (89mm)
Depth
25.5" (648mm)
Gross Weight
52 lbs (23.6kg)
Available Colors
Black

Front Panel

Buttons
Power On/Off button
System Reset button
LEDs
Power status LED
Hard drive activity LED
2x Network activity LEDs
System Overheat LED
Power fail LED

Expansion Slots

PCI-Express
3x PCI-E 3.0 x16
3x PCI-E 3.0 x8

Drive Bays

Hot-swap
8x Hot-swap 3.5" SATA HDD trays

Peripheral Drives

DVD-ROM
Slim DVD-ROM drive (optional)

Backplane

1x SAS2 / SATA backplane

System Cooling

Fans
3x 8cm 7k RPM middle fans

Power Supply with Power Distributor

740W (1+1) Redundant high-efficiency power supply with PMBus
AC Input
100-240 V, 50-60 Hz, 9-3.5 Amp
DC Output
4 Amp @ +5V standby
61.7 Amp @ +12V
With Power Distributor
+5V: 30 Amp
+3.3V: 24 Amp
-12V: 0.6 Amp
Certification Platinum Certified


System BIOS

BIOS Type
128Mb SPI Flash EEPROM with AMI BIOS
BIOS Features
Plug and Play (PnP)
APM 1.2
PCI 2.2
ACPI 1.0 / 2.0
USB Keyboard support
SMBIOS 2.3
UEFI

Operating Environment / Compliance

RoHS
RoHS Compliant
Environmental Spec.
Operating Temperature:
10°C to 35°C (50°F to 95°F)
Non-operating Temperature:
-40°C to 70°C (-40°F to 158°F)
Operating Relative Humidity:
8% to 90% (non-condensing)
Non-operating Relative Humidity:
5% to 95% (non-condensing)

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Supermicro 825TQ-R740LPB 2U chassis Black
Supermicro X10DRi mainboard
2 x Intel Xeon E5-2603v3 6 Core 1.60ghz 6.4GT/s 85W CPU
2 x 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz ECC Registered
8 x 3.5" Hot Swap drive bays,
740W Redundant Power Supplies Platinum Level (94% efficiency)
Onboard IPMI/KVM with Dedicated LAN
* without hdd, please choose in menu (max 8 hdd)

6028R


*Processor = 2 x Intel Xeon E5-2603v3 6 Core 1.60Ghz 85W CPU
*Memory = 4 x 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz ECC REG

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Super X10DRi

Processor/Cache

CPU
Intel® Xeon® processor E5-2600 v3 family (up to 145W TDP **)
Dual Socket R3 (LGA 2011)
Cores / Cache
Up to 18 Cores / Up to 45MB Cache
System Bus
QPI up to 9.6 GT/s
Note ** Please contact your Supermicro sales representative for additional details.

System Memory

Memory Capacity
16x 288-pin DDR4 DIMM sockets
Up to 1TB ECC LRDIMM, 512GB ECC RDIMM
Memory Type
2133/1866/1600MHz ECC DDR4 SDRAM 72-bit
DIMM Sizes
RDIMM: 32GB, 16GB, 8GB, 4GB
LRDIMM: 64GB, 32GB
Memory Voltage
1.2 V
Error Detection
Corrects single-bit errors
Detects double-bit errors (using ECC memory)

On-Board Devices

Chipset
Intel® C612 Express chipset
SATA
SATA 3.0 (6Gbps) with RAID 0, 1, 5, 10
IPMI
Support for Intelligent Platform Management Interface v.2.0
IPMI 2.0 with virtual media over LAN and KVM-over-LAN support
ASPEED AST2400 BMC
Network Controllers
Intel® i350 Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet
Virtual Machine Device Queues reduce I/O overhead
Supports 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, and 1000BASE-T, RJ45 output
1x Realtek RTL8201N PHY (dedicated IPMI)
Graphics
ASPEED AST2400 BMC

Input / Output

Serial ATA
8x SATA3 (6Gbps) ports
2x SATA3 powered ports that support SATA DOM
LAN
2x RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet LAN ports
1x RJ45 Dedicated IPMI LAN port
USB
Rear USB: 2x USB 3.0 + 2x USB 2.0
Front USB: 2x USB 2.0
USB Header: 2x 3.0, 2x 2.0, 1x Type A
VGA
1x VGA port
Serial Port / Header
2x Fast UART 16550 serial
2x COM Ports (1 rear, 1 header)
DOM
2x SuperDOM (Disk on Module) ports

Management

Software
SuperDoctor® 5
Watch Dog
NMI, SPM, SUM
IPMI 2.0
Intel Node Manager
Power Configurations
ACPI / APM Power Management
Power-on mode for AC power recovery


Chassis

Form Factor
2U Rackmount
Model
CSE-825TQ-R740LPB

Dimensions and Weight

Width
17.2" (437mm)
Height
3.5" (89mm)
Depth
25.5" (647mm)
Package
26" (H) x 11" (W) x 34.5" (D)
Weight
Net Weight: 35.5 lbs (16 kg)
Gross Weight: 69 lbs (31.2 kg)
Available Colors
Black

Front Panel

Buttons
Power On/Off button
System Reset button
UID button
LEDs
Power status LED
HDD activity LED
2x Network activity LEDs
System information (overheat/UID) LED

Expansion Slots

PCI-Express
3x PCI-E 3.0 x16 (Low-profile)
3x PCI-E 3.0 x8 (Low-profile)

Drive Bays

Hot-swap
8x 3.5" Hot-swap SATA HDD trays

Backplane

2U SAS/SATA backplane

System Cooling

Fans
3x 80x80x38mm Counter-rotating PWM fans

Power Supply with Power Distributor

740W (1+1) Redundant high-efficiency power supply with PMBus
AC Input
100-240 V, 50-60 Hz, 9-3.5 Amp
DC Output
4 Amp @ +5V standby
61.7 Amp @ +12V
Certification Platinum Certified

System BIOS

BIOS Type
128Mb SPI Flash EEPROM with AMI® BIOS
BIOS Features
Plug and Play (PnP)
APM 1.2
PCI 2.3
ACPI 1.0 / 2.0 / 3.0 / 4.0
USB Keyboard support
SMBIOS 2.7.1
UEFI 2.3.1

Operating Environment / Compliance

RoHS
RoHS Compliant
Environmental Spec.
Operating Temperature:
10°C to 35°C (50°F to 95°F)
Non-operating Temperature:
-40°C to 70°C (-40°F to 158°F)
Operating Relative Humidity:
8% to 90% (non-condensing)
Non-operating Relative Humidity:
5% to 95% (non-condensing)

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