Does Scale have a "full backup" like Home Assistant? (Including all apps?)

[fatalskeptic]

New to TrueNAS and Scale so apologies for the n00b question. I've looked into some of the search results and didn't find anything "simple". The closest answer I got was a CLI based option. Is there a way to do a "complete" / "clone" the whole system drive? Including all the apps I have deployed with their configurations etc.? And does TrueNAS Scale allows the option to restore from such a backup?

For reference, those familiar with Home Assistant OS full backup and restore.

Thanks!

 

[danb35]

Well, for starters, the apps aren't stored on the system drive; they're stored on a data pool. As far as the TrueNAS system is concerned, its configuration is stored in the configuration database, which you can download through the GUI. But the apps are a separate issue. You can set up a replication task to send snapshots of that dataset somewhere else, but there isn't a way to download that through the GUI.

 

[fatalskeptic]

Well, for starters, the apps aren't stored on the system drive; they're stored on a data pool. As far as the TrueNAS system is concerned, its configuration is stored in the configuration database, which you can download through the GUI. But the apps are a separate issue. You can set up a replication task to send snapshots of that dataset somewhere else, but there isn't a way to download that through the GUI.

duh! Didn't even click for me. What a waste of the 1TB SSD that I installed TrueNAS on if these apps aren't running on the SSD. Explains why everything is slow lol.

I will look into how restore for a snapshot works. Thanks!

 

[danb35]

What a waste of the 1TB SSD

Yeah, 1 TB is gross overkill for a boot device.

 

[fatalskeptic]

Yeah, 1 TB is gross overkill for a boot device.

haha yea, why would anyone think that "apps" would be installed on the "system" disk.

My current plan is to figure out how to resintall Scale on a lower sized drive, use the config file method. Then migrate the apps from the HDD to the 1 TB SSD and then use the HDD for plex. I am going to cry because nothing works out on the first attempt lol

 

[danb35]

haha yea, why would anyone think that "apps" would be installed on the "system" disk.

Not unreasonable to assume, but Free/TrueNAS has never worked that way. But fortunately, SCALE includes a GUI way to move the apps from one pool to another, so it's an easy fix.

 

[majorgear]

What about application configuration? ie the settings you enter when you click on “apps->discover->create custom app?”

The app data is in a dataset, but I would hope the app name, image path, port mapping, storage settings, etc would be part of the system configuration. At least in TN Scale.