BACKUP NAS build with AlderLake (i5-12600)

Etorix

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Safe choice… and, I guess, already some savings over the initial Alder Lake plan. More RAM is always better, but 16 GB should do for a backup system. If the plan is still 5 * 4 TB, don't bother with a hot spare, just go for 5 drives in raidz2, this will be safer than 4 in raidz1 + 1 spare.
 

PtitLu

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Hi guys , I just set up my build , now trueNAS is installed and i just get in the WebUser interface . I have already a notification about SMART like this :

CRITICAL

Device: /dev/ada1, Failed SMART usage Attribute: 183 Unknown_Phison_Attr.. ,


is it a common thing ? this disk is brand new WD 6TB RED PLUS disk
Thanks
 

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Etorix

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Never seen that… and obviously TrueNAS hasn't seen it either. It is probably safe to ignore, but you can post here the output of smartctl -a /dev/ada1 within [ CODE ] tags (</> from … at the far right of the format bar) for us to inspect.
 

PtitLu

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Never seen that… and obviously TrueNAS hasn't seen it either. It is probably safe to ignore, but you can post here the output of smartctl -a /dev/ada1 within [ CODE ] tags (</> from … at the far right of the format bar) for us to inspect.

Hi , here it is : This is 1 HDD brand new and old SSD where truenas is installed temporary.

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Phison Driven SSDs
Device Model: KINGSTON SHSS37A240G
Firmware Version: SAFM00.r
User Capacity: 240,057,409,536 bytes [240 GB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: Solid State Device
Form Factor: 2.5 inches
TRIM Command: Available, deterministic, zeroed
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ACS-2 (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Mon Mar 28 05:35:20 2022 PDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
See vendor-specific Attribute list for marginal Attributes.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 30) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Not_In_Use 0x0005 100 100 050 Pre-fail Offline - 0
3 Not_In_Use 0x0007 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0
5 Retired_Block_Count 0x0013 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Not_In_Use 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Not_In_Use 0x0005 100 100 050 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 15798
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 3152
168 SATA_Phy_Error_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 31
170 Bad_Blk_Ct_Erl/Lat 0x0003 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0/675
173 MaxAvgErase_Ct 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 293 (Average 217)
175 Not_In_Use 0x0013 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0
183 Unknown_Phison_Attr 0x0012 100 100 100 Old_age Always FAILING_NOW 19202265
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
192 Unsafe_Shutdown_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 186
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0023 076 059 030 Pre-fail Always - 24 (Min/Max 13/41)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0002 100 100 010 Old_age Always - 0
197 Not_In_Use 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
199 SATA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 11
218 CRC_Error_Count 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 11
231 SSD_Life_Left 0x0013 100 100 000 Pre-fail Always - 93
233 Flash_Writes_GiB 0x000b 100 100 000 Pre-fail Always - 44860
240 Not_In_Use 0x0013 100 100 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
241 Lifetime_Writes_GiB 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 26875
242 Lifetime_Reads_GiB 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 31429
244 Average_Erase_Count 0x0002 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 217
245 Max_Erase_Count 0x0002 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 293
246 Total_Erase_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 14811776

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

root@truenas[~]#
root@truenas[~]# smartctl -a /dev/ada0
smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p12 amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Red
Device Model: WDC WD60EFZX-68B3FN0
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 26a306945
Firmware Version: 81.00A81
User Capacity: 6,001,175,126,016 bytes [6.00 TB]
Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate: 5640 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5
SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Mon Mar 28 05:36:41 2022 PDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity
was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (64320) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x11) SMART execute Offline immediate.
No Auto Offline data collection support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
No Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
No Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 680) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x303d) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 201 194 021 Pre-fail Always - 6916
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 13
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 13
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 7
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 8
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 129 123 000 Old_age Always - 23
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 253 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
 

Etorix

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OK… So the unknown attribute comes from a SSD but showed up as if it were associated to the HDD at ada1.
There's a known issue with matching reports/information with devices and your issue is a variation on that, possibly aggravated here because it has confused a SSD for a HDD.
I think there already is a JIRA ticket for this abnormal behaviour from TrueNAS, but I can't find the thread and ticket.
 
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