RAM for Supermicro X9SCL-F-O

[Yatti420]

I finally committed and bought a X9SCL-F-O. While waiting for it to arrive I have been checking out ram options for the board.. Specifically Kingston brand to get an idea of what prices to expect.. CPU supports 1333/1600..

Looking on Newegg I see 8gb unbuffered sticks at about $100.. I know I need to focus on ubufffered and getting most capacity.. Speeds aren't that important.. I would look to pick up 16gb.. Haven't really looked elsewhere for bundled 16gb - I may look at NCIX later..

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239370CVF - These are the non intel verified sticks.. Not sure if any advantage at all in buying intel "comaptible/verified"..

There isn't much difference in selection.. I'm not sure if a thermal sensors are necessary or compatible.. Any cheaper options out there brand/source wise?

Thanks,

 

[ndboost]

I ordered this memory and it works great, it is name brand and on the HCL for SuperMicro http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064R7LH8/?tag=ozlp-20

I also ordered this memory, which is non-name brand and NOT on the list of compatible memory.. however it does work (it is running in my system right now) although most people here will bark at you for not running compatible memory. YMMV
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200847062667?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

 

[jyavenard]

if you check supermicro web site for this motherboard:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/xeon/c202_c204/x9scl-f.cfm

it has a link "Tested Memory List"... you may find what you wish there that isn't much more expensive than generic ram....

 

[Yatti420]

Thanks.. Picked up some Kingston..

KVR1333D3E9S/8G

 

[russnas]

I have that same ram above how ever its out of stock where I am at

I didn't know which RAM to get but I see Kingston has provided some info for Supermicro boards:

http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/hyperx_us/modelsinfo.asp?SysID=69306

and Crucial RAM works too
CT102472BD160B

 

[Yatti420]

Good to know.. As long as it's basic unbuffered ECC it should work.. It's the complicated sticks with thermal sensors etc that I'm not sure if they will boot.. Even if they do you will probably lose those features unless you have a motherboard to support the thermal sensors.

 

[russnas]

i have to retract what i said about crucial ram working, the pc did boot but ECC was not enabled.
CT102472BD160B

this test in ubuntu confirmed it, only the kingston ram was working while crucial was not, if both was in then ecc was not enabled all together.

but it does work on a asus server board which im now using.

tested with Intel g2020 cpu.

See link for more info
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/How-to-Check-ECC-RAM-Functionality-462/

root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# dmidecode -t memory results

Supermicro Board - crucial ram

Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0007
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 8 bits
Data Width: 8 bits
Size: 8192 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_2B
Bank Locator: BANK 1
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1333 MHz
Manufacturer: 0000
Serial Number: 00000000
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: [Empty]
Rank: 2
Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz

crucial ram on my asus server.

Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0031
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8192 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_B1
Bank Locator: BANK 2
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1333 MHz
Manufacturer: Micron
Serial Number: xxxxx
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: 18KSF1G72AZ-1G6E1
Rank: 2
Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz

kingston ram on Supermicro

Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0007
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8192 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_2A
Bank Locator: BANK 0
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1333 MHz
Manufacturer: Kingston
Serial Number: xxxxxx
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: 9965525-025.A00LF
Rank: 2
Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz

Kingston ram with crucial - notice the total width is 128, Dual Channel

Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0007
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 128 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8192 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_2A
Bank Locator: BANK 0
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1333 MHz
Manufacturer: Kingston
Serial Number: xxxxxx
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: 9965525-025.A00LF
Rank: 2
Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz

while the total width was not 144 (72x2) liked i thought, when ecc was enabled it is showing 72bits per module ,

DDR3 uses a 64-bit memory controller per channel - so, 128-bit bus for dual channel

http://www.techspot.com/community/t...-between-ddr3-memory-and-gddr5-memory.186408/

 

[Ericloewe]

i have to retract what i said about crucial ram working, the pc did boot but ECC was not enabled.
CT102472BD160B

this test in ubuntu confirmed it, only the kingston ram was working while crucial was not, if both was in then ecc was not enabled all together.

but it does work on a asus server board which im now using.

tested with Intel g2020 cpu.

See link for more info
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/How-to-Check-ECC-RAM-Functionality-462/

root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# dmidecode -t memory results

Supermicro Board - crucial ram

Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0007
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 8 bits
Data Width: 8 bits
Size: 8192 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_2B
Bank Locator: BANK 1
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1333 MHz
Manufacturer: 0000
Serial Number: 00000000
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: [Empty]
Rank: 2
Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz

crucial ram on my asus server.

Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0031
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8192 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_B1
Bank Locator: BANK 2
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1333 MHz
Manufacturer: Micron
Serial Number: xxxxx
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: 18KSF1G72AZ-1G6E1
Rank: 2
Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz

kingston ram on Supermicro

Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0007
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 72 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8192 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_2A
Bank Locator: BANK 0
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1333 MHz
Manufacturer: Kingston
Serial Number: xxxxxx
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: 9965525-025.A00LF
Rank: 2
Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz

Kingston ram with crucial - notice the total width is 128, Dual Channel

Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x0007
Error Information Handle: No Error
Total Width: 128 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8192 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM_2A
Bank Locator: BANK 0
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1333 MHz
Manufacturer: Kingston
Serial Number: xxxxxx
Asset Tag: 9876543210
Part Number: 9965525-025.A00LF
Rank: 2
Configured Clock Speed: 1333 MHz

while the total width was not 144 (72x2) liked i thought, when ecc was enabled it is showing 72bits per module ,

DDR3 uses a 64-bit memory controller per channel - so, 128-bit bus for dual channel

http://www.techspot.com/community/t...-between-ddr3-memory-and-gddr5-memory.186408/

I'm not sure that dmidecode is very reliable in determining that ECC is working. In particular, the 8-bit width screams inaccuracy...

 

[cyberjock]

When it comes to AMD stuff, there is no accurate way to determine ECC is working, except to have an ECC failure that triggers an event in the event log. I've seen this on Intel machines from kernel panics (some crashes put the memory controller in a funky state and on reboot you get a "Uncorrectable ECC RAM error. Press F1 to continue" on the post screen).

On Intel, you can pretty much only prove it to a certain point (minus Skylake which isn't out yet). Again, the only solid ways are to either buy all server-grade stuff (Xeon, server motherboard from a reputable company like Supermicro, etc.) or wait for a kernel panic and one of those ECC RAM errors I mentioned above.

AMD's official documentation makes NO reference to any way to identify if ECC is functioning or not.

Intel provides some memory registers you can read to determine ECC status, but the values can only be trusted when certain very specific conditions are met. If you are trying to meet those conditions you'd almost find it easier just to buy all server-grades stuff.

 

[Ericloewe]

When it comes to AMD stuff, there is no accurate way to determine ECC is working, except to have an ECC failure that triggers an event in the event log. I've seen this on Intel machines from kernel panics (some crashes put the memory controller in a funky state and on reboot you get a "Uncorrectable ECC RAM error. Press F1 to continue" on the post screen).

On Intel, you can pretty much only prove it to a certain point (minus Skylake which isn't out yet). Again, the only solid ways are to either buy all server-grade stuff (Xeon, server motherboard from a reputable company like Supermicro, etc.) or wait for a kernel panic and one of those ECC RAM errors I mentioned above.

AMD's official documentation makes NO reference to any way to identify if ECC is functioning or not.

Intel provides some memory registers you can read to determine ECC status, but the values can only be trusted when certain very specific conditions are met. If you are trying to meet those conditions you'd almost find it easier just to buy all server-grades stuff.

Xeon E3 v3 also includes registers that control error injection, but I haven't seen any tool that uses them.

 

[Yatti420]

KVR1333D3E9S/8G Doesn't work in 32GB setups on the X9SCL (Or X10 series it appears).. Always pick DIMMs listed on the approved SuperMicro memory list (for your appropriate configuration)..

 

[Johnnie Black]

KVR1333D3E9S/8G Doesn't work in 32GB setups on the X9SCL (Or X10 series it appears).. Always pick DIMMs listed on the approved SuperMicro memory list (for your appropriate configuration)..

It works for the X9SCM/X9SCL

 

[Yatti420]

I have two pairs of KVR1333D3E9S/8G that will not under any configuration allow for 32gb (just the 5 beep - memory error no post).. Must be the underlying chip on the dimm or something.. I believe they are varying hynix chips.. Looks like these boards have the same stubbornness as the x10...

 

[Yatti420]

It works for the X9SCM/X9SCL

Can you check what chips are used on the DIMM?

 

[Johnnie Black]

Can you check what chips are used on the DIMM?

Yes, but probably not before the weekend.

 

[Yatti420]

Yes, but probably not before the weekend.

No worries.. I think I read Kingston DIMMs.. Elipida chips were tested QVL.. Either of the sets (Kingston - Various Hynix?) I have work for 16gb no problem..

 

[Johnnie Black]

Can you check what chips are used on the DIMM?

They are Hynix:

 

[Yatti420]

I have two varying versions of a hynix chip.. They are close but are different (even the modules slightly) I read to reseat the cpu.. Or find a matching set of sticks.. Other then that I'm at a loss.. Either set work in the blue slots.. It's those pesky black slots.. I'll get everything done will waiting on a new PSU..

 

[Yatti420]

I have two varying versions of a hynix chip.. They are close but are different (even the modules slightly) I read to reseat the cpu.. Or find a matching set of sticks.. Other then that I'm at a loss.. Either set work in the blue slots.. It's those pesky black slots.. I'll get everything done will waiting on a new PSU..

Well that's just stupid.. with my luck i expect it to fail lol.. new psu was well warranted.. or the reseating of the cpu did the trick.. 32gb should be working with both pairs of dimms now.. it's no longer giving post beeps..



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[Yatti420]

They are Hynix:

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Thanks for the help!